stack and tilt golf swingSince the emergence of the stack and tilt golf swing in 2007 it has been under heavy fire from skeptics claiming its not for everyone. The elimination of a lateral weight shift have golf instructors up in arms. Skeptics claim no weight transfer sacrifices distance and that is something a lot of average golfers don’t have to spare.

Other athletic movements like a pitcher throwing a ball have been cited as examples to support the need for a weight transfer. I found an interesting interview with Mike Weir when he was still a Stack and Tilt student.

In a question about the reduction of power, Weir offered an interesting analogy to explain how staying centered actually provides more club head speed.

Imagine holding a string with a weight on the opposite end. If you want to get the string swinging in a circle as fast as possible, you are not going to move it laterally. In fact your hand will remain centered while the weight swings around it. If lateral movement is added the weight at the end of the string actually loses speed.

What Are The Top 50 Golf Professionals Saying?
Instructors from the Top 50 were asked what they thought of the Stack and Tilt golf swing. I was actually a bit surprised by some of the responses. There are some strong statements made that seem to be based entirely on opinion and suspicion.

Dr. Jim Suttie
Dr. Suttie’s opinion is basically Stack and Tilt can be a good fit for athletic players with above average flexibility. If a player with poor flexibility attempts the Stack and Tilt Golf Swing they risk serious injury. As you’ll see in my next article, there are conflicting opinions on whether the swing actually risks injury. It is true however that players, Weir included, report a reduction in back pain and discomfort.

Rick Martino
Martino shares a similar view to Dr. Suttie. His statement is that players with superior flexibility and core strength can be successful “Stack and Tilters.” The requirement to sync the torso rotation and upward leg drive, Martino claims, might make Stack and Tilt too difficult for average players however. Couple that with his claim that the swing sacrifices distance and his entire statement falls right in line with the pool of doubters. Too difficult for average players, too much power sacrificed.

Jimmy Ballard
Ballard made a pretty strong statement claiming the players doing it “are headed down a road to disaster.” Basically, his objection comes from the lack of a weight shift which reduces power and causes a reverse pivot. He states this gets the club out of center. My golf instructor speak fails me here, but based on his “road to disaster” claim, getting the club out of center must be a bad thing, and its occurrence must be a sure thing.

Jim Hardy
The only instructor that seemed to be “ok” with the S&T was Hardy. He states his books had supported similar concepts for years, and his one plane swing has some of the same principles as the stack and tilt golf swing. In his books Hardy explained he suggests a limited weight shift or none at all. He seems to be ok with Stack and Tilt mainly because it is so close to his One-Plane system.

Conclusion

It seems the only legit argument against the Stack and Tilt Golf Swing is the fact that it is a system and no one system will fit every player. Makes sense. Of course a lot of factors go into whether a player properly implements a swing “system” or not. Namely the teacher, or the player’s interpretation of what he has learned.

A lot can be lost between Plummer and Bennett’s explanation to the high handicapper “giving it a shot” at the driving range on a Wednesday night.

I think the debate between old school, big name golf instructors and Stack and Tilt “die-hards” is intriguing. What if guys who have built their entire career on the fact that their golf mind is the best, admitted that the hottest, fastest growing golf swing was best for everyone? I can’t help but think a heaping dose of “competition” has been a factor in sculpting some golf instructors opinion of the swing.

Why do you think the Stack and Tilt Golf Swing does or doesn’t work?

Reture to Stack And Tilt Golf Swing 101 here.

7 Responses

  1. The funny thing and a good point others are making is this…. people who are against stack and tilt are scared.

    I actually have a friend of mine who is a teaching pro and teaches the outdated weight back then foward momentum swing.

    His biggest problem is how can he make money when a swing as simple as stack and tilt is easier to learn and maintain than that of a traditional swing. So he sells the old shcoll methodology that doing what was once the norm actually performs better and more consistant than S&T. When acually this isnt true. S&T is far easier and much more eily repeated.

    All the big name instructors but down this stack and tilt swing because it makes them look like morons yet now they are starting to incorporate it.

    No wonder while back people said it would be near impoosible for others to emmulate hogan and jack, its because they arent teaching the proper swing mechanics.

    Im sorry but since switching to stack and tilt my game has improved 10 fold and I would never go back to the old teachings as they are so outdated and lack scientific research and back up.

    Maybe once everyone gets their heads out of their asses and reduce thier egos they will realize stack and tilt is much easier and more consistent than any other swing out there.

    Let the flaming commence from those who lack the ability to see which is better. I am fine with doing what I do and havent hit a bad shot in the last few months sense switching, I love watching others hit fat and unpredictable shots, its hilarious.

  2. There is no arguing that it works very well for some. But, man, am I having a hard time with it. It is embarrassing and demoralizing at the range. But, I got to a 12 index with my previous swing and felt, “well, that’s about it and it isn’t that great.” Even though I’m terrible with the S/T and am headed to 16-18 with it, I’ve also gotten off the best shots of my life with it and I’m not chunking them. Because of this, I feel the upside is higher. I’ve got the videos and the book and I read Michael and Andy’s explanations in a number of magazines. This could be like a lot of things: When I keep trying the miracle happens.

  3. It does take some time to really “get” a whole new golf swing. How long have you been working at it?

  4. I have 3 herniated discs, my right knee has no meniscus and I wear a brace on it, my right shoulder has a slight tear in the rotator cuff, I have a kidney stone and pass blood when I used to go hit a bucket of balls or play a round of golf.
    I tried the S&T today on 9 holes. Took 4 to 5 holes to get my swing slowed down. Once I did slow it down (on the back swing) I was in the fairway with every tee shot and fairway wood. I only used my 3 wood today (hit it off the grass from the fairway and the tee box) and everything fell into place rather well. My short game is fine as it is so I won’t be using it on my chips/pitches and or short approach shots within 50 yards. I have no pain in my back or knee or shoulder and so for haven’t passed any blood and it’s been 12 to 14 hours.
    I believe it works, it’s safe (I’m all broken up and it did not hurt my 63 year old body) and will keep it up. My experience is a slow back swing, then give it hit.
    Doc

  5. I have used it with pretty good success at times, not all parts of it, but most of it. One of the areas where it really helped me was hitting fairway woods but also did pretty good with the driver. A lot of folks have bashed it but it is hard to argue with it, or at least most parts of it. Golf instruction is changing/has changed somewhat as a result of it. If you watch tour pros it is easy to see that they use at least parts of this swing.

  6. The fact that distance and accuracy instantly improve without weight shift makes me wonder what other conventional teaching myths exist that have no merit. Students must keep in mind that just because a method has been taught for a long time it is not necessarily correct or is the best method. S&T has sparked a good debate.

  7. I switched to the Stack and Tilt and it improved my game. I actually hit the ball longer now since a can make better contact with the ball. It is definitely easier for me to hit the ball straight.

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